We all want more Joy in our lives. All spiritual paths promise Joy. So where is it? John Mark asks what does The Joy of Cooking, The Joy of Sex and The Course in Miracles have in common? All promise Joy, but the promise cannot be found in the text themselves. It is only when we move into direct experience that we can truly experience Joy. A true Joy that defies description. This Dialogue was Joy filled with much laughter from those attending. John Mark also guides us to an experience that moves us beyond concepts. This Dialogue was recorded October 19, 2012.